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Poster: Spuzz Date: Jun 22, 2005 3:20pm
Forum: prelinger Subject: More PD 'compilations' possibly infringe on reviewers rights,

While doing some research on Just who or what 'Stillman' is of the Stillman Fire Collection, (I think it might be Stillman Valley in Illinois?), I came across, Yes, another enterprising fellow selling the Stillman films on his website.. What I found so funny, is something simalar happened to ridetheory a while back, and that this guy just copied portions of my reviews on his descriptions of the movies! Exactly!

Case in point.. My review of Stillman Fires Collection: Dashes Of NYFD -
After a brief (but interesting) glimpse at how fire stations recorded alarms around 1925, we get MORE of Chief Kenlon's ride! Those of you paying attention know that the original Chief Kenlon's ride film (which is located on this site) had 2:30 seconds of amazing camera mounted on the hood footage of him RACING to get to a fire! Well in THIS! It's LENGTHENED to 4 minutes now! More great footage is here (including an upside down sequence!). Some footage here will remind you, of all things. of the French Connection. After that, is the same fire they were battling at the end of the original Chief kenlon movie.

His description of "Stillman Fires Collection: Dashes Of NYFD"
Our first film kicks off with a brief glimpse at how fire stations recorded alarms in the 1920s. Then we move onto images of legendary Chief Kenlon who had installed an amazing camera mounted on the hood of his truck while he races get to a fire! Some footage here will remind you, of all things, the French Connection.

My review of FDNY Chief Officers
While yes, this short is dominated by unnamed fire department wags walking up and down trying not to notice the camera, if you look beyond that, you can catch some fascinating footage of New York in the 20's, the stoops, the cars, and the fashions! I mean I love the flapper costume the little girl was wearing! Also, look for the movie poster for the lonnnnnng forgotten movie "Journey To Chinatown" made by Fox in 1926! There is another bit at the end of how a call gets to the station. It's not bad.

Their description:
This short is dominated by unnamed fire department chiefs walking up and down trying not to notice the camera. If you look beyond that, you can catch some fascinating footage of New York in the 20's, the stoops, the cars, and the fashions! You will love the flapper costume a little girl is wearing! Also, look for the movie poster for the long forgotten movie "Journey To Chinatown" made by Fox in 1926! There is another bit at the end of how a call gets to the station.

And on and on it goes, heck he even copies some of Christine Hennig's reviews too.

Are our reviews protected here?

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Poster: MrMovie Date: Jun 26, 2005 1:07pm
Forum: prelinger Subject: Re: More PD 'compilations' possibly infringe on reviewers rights,

I'm not a legal expert in this BUT... one would have to assume that unless you are writing for a major news organization or paper or your a member of the writers guild the odds that what anyone writes out here in the way of reviews is NOT protected. Now, granted, if someone were going to utilize a review, the least they could do is a re-write and inject some new ajectives and based on what is written write their own review using some but not all of the content written by someone else. Again, I believe this falls under the category of you post it and its out there for the world to read, copy and paste. On the other-hand if you were to put a © notice on your review you MIGHT be protected but even that's doubtful. Besides, are you really going to hire an attorney and file suit against someone who may live 2,000 miles away? The cost of the attorney would be more than you'd collect if anything. There is also another delima ... there are the reviews but there are also many, many films that have some pretty elaborate descriptions. Are those descriptions protected as well? Probably not. If the product is no longer in copyright why would the descriptions of the products be copyrighted. The person or persons responsible for the descriptive narrative would probably be hard to track down. For example: Who is writing those long descriptions associated with the Universal Newsreels. No one's signature is associated with those. Seems like anyone could copy and paste and use those just the way they are. I beleive that the individual reviews are one issue and the descriptions of the product is another and in either case I seriously doubt there are any protection either expressed or implied by the archive. Again, this is just my opinion, and I'm not an attorney.



This post was modified by MrMovie on 2005-06-26 20:07:17